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‘Pegasus & inflation will remain big issues in winter session too’

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‘Pegasus & inflation will remain big issues in winter session too’

NEW DELHI: Congress leader Jairam Ramesh told Subodh Ghildiyal that the opposition will demand a debate on Pegasus snooping in the winter session and that there should be a discussion on China. Excerpts from the interview:
What is the agenda of the opposition in the winter session of parliament?
The government has not referred any bills to the standing committees inspite of our repeated attempts. Farm laws are still there, inflation and Pegasus are important. We are still talking to opposition parties. It takes time to crystallise. In the monsoon session, we were united because of the farm laws and Pegasus. Inflation and farm laws remain big issues. In parliament, the type of coordinated action that took place during the monsoon session will continue.
Will Pegasus be an issue again since it is being examined by the SCappointed committee?
We will continue to demand a discussion on it. We can’t say it is sub judice. It concerns not only the fundamental rights of citizens but also affects national security. There have been two important developments since the last session — there has been an official admission from Israel that NSO only sells software to governments and the US government is taking stringent steps to ban the NSO. It’ll continue to be raised in parliament. Though we can’t ignore the fact that this committee has been appointed by the SC to examine the issue, there has to be a debate in the presence of either the PM or the home minister.
What are the other issues?
China is a very important issue. We had even asked for an in-camera briefing of leaders but even that has not happened. With every passing day, the PM’s statement in the all-party meeting that there was no incursion is proving to be hollow. If there was no incursion, how do you describe the Chinese presence on Indian territory — an excursion? We will raise the issue, but unfortunately, we have a partisan chairman in the Rajya Sabha who will not allow it to be raised. He is more loyal than the king. We can set the parameters of the debate, nobody will be irresponsible on this subject.

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